Going into Iraq was wrong and President Bush lied to get us to go in.
The valiant soldiers we've put in harm's way deserve better. There are things worth going to war for, but ousting Saddam Hussein was not one of them.
And protecting the Sunni minority that prospered under Hussein from reaping what they've sown is not worth one more American life.
Since our Soldiers, Airmen, Navy and Marines got there, they've been hampered, harrassed, maimed and murdered for political goals that are unacheivable and political figures too stubborn or stupid to recognize their initial error.
The emporor has no clothes, and James Webb has the balls to say so.
The quote below is the lede to a story about Webb in a Washington Post article by Post Staff Writer Michael D. Shear.
"At a recent White House reception for freshman members of Congress, Virginia's newest senator tried to avoid President Bush. Democrat James Webb declined to stand in a presidential receiving line or to have his picture taken with the man he had often criticized on the stump this fall. But it wasn't long before Bush found him.
"How's your boy?" Bush asked, referring to Webb's son, a Marine serving in Iraq.
"I'd like to get them out of Iraq, Mr. President," Webb responded, echoing a campaign theme.
"That's not what I asked you," Bush said. "How's your boy?"
"That's between me and my boy, Mr. President," Webb said coldly, ending the conversation on the State Floor of the East Wing of the White House."
George Will has it exactly wrong. Webb brings to the Senate exactly what Washington needs more of.
In the next six years, I expect him to give liberals like me plenty of heartburn; Webb is no lefty.
But he's served this country admirably, as a warrior, a novelist, a journalist and a Secretary of the Navy.
I'm proud of the way he's representing Virginia, even before being formally sworn in.
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Then you should check your hearing.
Niether party has a monopoly on wisdom, but if you cannot differentiate between Jim Webb and "typical left wing bullshit" you need to see an otolaryngologist.
He's a warrior who wrote what most judge THE best Vietnam novel by a veteran of that conflict. (The only Viet Nam novel on the required reading sylabus at West Point.)
He was Reagan's Navy secretary until he got fed up with bullshit like accommodating Napoleon McCallum's football career and David Robinson's basketball career while they were on active duty.
He beat the shit out of Ollie North when both were officer candidates at the Naval Academy in a boxing match that remains famous to this day.
He crusaded against women at the Naval Academy. He defended the Air Force officers caught up in the Tailhook scandal.
He only ran as a Democrat because he doesn't believe in the war his son (and many other fathers' sons and daughters) have been called to fight.
I'm sure he'd have been happier to run as a Republican, but that slot was filled with the sycophantic and self-destructing George Macacawitz Allen.
Really, if all you hear in Webb's exchange with Dubya is typical left wing bullshit, you're not employing the analytical skills that must reside even in so disturbed a mind as The Mind of ANON1.
I would like to see George W. send his daughters to fight the war in Iraq.
I am sure his opinions would change VERY quickly.
Why is it that when people join the military and there is no war, everyone is happy with being in the armed forces?
But, when a war does come and people die, it's the President's fault. War+guns+bombs=DEAD PEOPLE. None of the people fighting today were drafted, they enlisted.
Are you missing the point on purpose?
Soldiers in Iraq are doing the duty they signed up for. They are faithfully executing the policy that the dolts in Washington have decreed.
But it is a doltish policy and it's getting them killed, unnecesarily.
Unnecessarily is the key.
They have to go when ordered. And they are. Every credible report says the military men and women with "boots on the ground" are performing admirably.
But we civilians owe them a duty, too.
We have a responsibility to order them to fight and die only when the vital interests of the U.S. are at stake.
They're not at stake here.
So the commanders, and especially the Commander in Chief and Secretary of Defense are failing in their duty to the soldiers.
As I said originally, there are things worth putting the young men and women of the U.S. military in harm's way for.
The Iraq occupation is not one of them, nor is the policing of the Iraqi civil war.
That is your opinion as a man who does not know what is really going on behind the scenes. You are taking the views of the liberal media and presenting them as facts which they are not.
The critical questions of fact are ones you or I are entirely qualified to determine.
Was regime change in Iraq a vital interest of the United States?
Is policing the Iraqi civil war?
I need neither behind-the-scenes information nor tutoring from any establishment, liberal or otherwise, to make an informed judgment about these questions.
The facts are out there, unvarnished by anyone's spin.
We've put our military in harm's way over things that are not vital interests of the U.S. In that, we've failed them.
Well once again your complete lack of access to top secret intelligence of the US doesn't leave you with a lot to go on. Most of what you read is not fact. It's left wing hippy bullshit written by some Grateful Dead fan.
Ad hominem attack is not reasoned argument.
You may be prepared to allow the establishment (liberal or conservative) count you out of policy debates by promiscuous use of a Top Secret stamp.
I am not.
Your point proves way too much.
If you're right, democracy is a foolish exercise in leadership by the ignorant and civilian control of the military is a bothersome technicality.
I'm not so pessimistic about the truth, as reported by a free press.
It makes no sense to get all your news from one source, whether it's the conservatives on the Fox News Channel or the liberals at The New Republic.
But if you get your news from a wide variety of sources (I'd advise the Wall Street Journal from the right, the New York Times or Washington Post from the left, The Nation from the far left and the National Review or The Weekly Standard from the far right) you can divine an approximatiopn of the truth.
Well maybe you can't, but one can.
Who owns most of the media in America? The Jews. Most of the time jewish people are democratic and their view are to the left.
So I don't think the press is as free as you think David.
And stop with the fucking big words and fancy statements. This is not a court.
Personal foul, #Anon1, offensive bigotry.
Fifteen yard penalty plus loss of the down.
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